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This week:
Write paper on Livejournal icons(20ish pages)due monday

Write paper on the Quaker Sweat(25ish pages)due today, but maybe next week

Transcribe 80 minutes of tape for Quaker sweat paper

Do another interview for the Quaker sweat paper(this is turning into a humongous project)

Keep inducing ketosis

write up information for potential D&D campaign.

Date: 2004-11-16 08:32 am (UTC)
kinetikatrue: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kinetikatrue
You're writing a paper about the Quaker Sweat? Is this is a history/culture sort of thing? Or are you taking a position on the sweat?

[You'd think I'd be thoroughly tired of the subject by now, but it seems not.]

Date: 2004-11-16 08:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drydem.livejournal.com
It's a folk religion sort of thing, I am examining positions on the sweat, but my position is more academic than personal.

Date: 2004-11-16 09:09 am (UTC)
kinetikatrue: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kinetikatrue
Well, the Quaker Sweat certainly is that. Though whether it should be allowed to be called either Quaker or Sweat is one of the many things I've spent far too much time talking about or listening to people talk about. Anyway, it sounds like an interesting paper to read. Will you share it once it's written?

Date: 2004-11-17 08:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drydem.livejournal.com
What is your opinion on the subject?

Date: 2004-11-17 10:15 am (UTC)
kinetikatrue: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kinetikatrue
My thoughts on the subject? I'm clear that while it's perfectly acceptable for Quakers to participate in/practice the sweat lodge, it is not acceptable for it to be considered a part of Quaker practice - it steps away from one of the most basic tenets of Quakerism: that we need nothing to mediate in our relationship with the divine.

As for the cultural appropriation side of things, I understand that in calling it a sweat and using the form it does, that there is at least some adaptation going on. But then I look at other cultures that use similar set-ups for religious or secular purposes and I can't help but think that the Quaker Sweat organizers have just as much right to practice that form of worship as the Native peoples do. Really, I don't have complete clearness on this side of things.

And this is the short version. If you want more detail than that, I can likely provide, but I don't have time right now.

Date: 2004-11-16 10:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarcastibich.livejournal.com
I'll admit it. I read the words "Quaker Sweat" and I picture my 8th grade science teacher bending over out of breath, his shirt sticking to his chest with perspiration. Now, this is not a pretty image b/c my 8th grade science teacher was about 150 lbs overweight, but I picture him because he was the first person I ever met who was Quaker.

BEn, what is Quaker Sweat? Help me strike the image from my mind, please.

Date: 2004-11-16 10:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fallenrose.livejournal.com
Quaker sweat? *confused*

Date: 2004-11-16 01:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] princess706.livejournal.com
I would like very very very much to read your ljicon paper, please?

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